刘正成先生该冷静一下了（作者：王根权）

柳青凯

看了这个帖子,正反两方面的观点都有,
一方为远刘派,一方为亲刘派
青凯当是看刘派,意思是我是在看,在观察
; L2 J: `& P; f, b刘先生的确为当代书法做了很多工作,功不可没,如果自己不出来说,他的功劳可能会更大.
% n+ B  Z9 n. O( _, {3 p4 |正因为先生近两年出来说的太多,才是我对先生先前的好印象稍减
当代书坛一直都在进步,
当一种艺术导向达到高潮时,必将会有它的负面影响，最后的中青展太张扬个性而倾斜了对传统的关注
" T+ D9 H7 l' E( l$ x所以那个时候就需要刘炳森
刘炳森又过份保守，也不好
" G! m% R5 U+ Y, B现在好了，现在的展览包容性还是很强的，
和谐社会，共享多元，官方和民办都在繁荣，岂不更受大家欢迎
不信你可以比一下，中青展时期的作品集已经很落后了．
2 ]  C+ Z3 T! e, T, J0 U; t所以刘正成先生真的不必再怀念自己的辉煌，先生的辉煌大家都是知道的，
而我们更要关注的是现在，现在的书坛依然是要进步的，
0 ^( m0 e3 f" E最后建议刘先生还是少一点激动，对当代书坛多一点思考岂不更好

[ 本帖最后由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 19:20 编辑 ]

少说

从你这样回复帖子，也顶多算一个甘拜刘正成先生门下的一个追星而已，而盲目的崇拜是不行的，要站在一个正确的立场上来看问题，刘岂敢与邓相提并论，那是天大的笑话------邓也没有在任何场合引用或说邓小平时代啊？？？？

少说

说得好！！！青凯兄很冷静--------

少说

老顽童先生，你连做人的一些基本的东西都不懂哦？----------

[ 本帖最后由 少说 于 2007-10-9 20:03 编辑 ]

曾如影

原帖由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 19:16 发表

                               
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' b7 |& K5 W, K9 f2 r0 e4 V看了这个帖子,正反两方面的观点都有,
一方为远刘派,一方为亲刘派
/ z* s0 Q" s' t$ _: ?2 g# I+ f青凯当是看刘派,意思是我是在看,在观察
刘先生的确为当代书法做了很多工作,功不可没,如果自己不出来说,他的功劳可能会更大.
正因为先生近两 ...

, ~" K3 {) y6 J1 T( H非也.如果你有兴趣的话,真实地翻看一下历届中青展的作品,那才叫做多元化,包容性最强.

柳青凯

原帖由 曾如影 于 2007-10-9 20:15 发表

                               
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$ l* f& o4 ]4 ^: k" W* ~& n) Q
* ^3 Q! Y8 i& `! w! ?3 t" O$ ?非也.如果你有兴趣的话,真实地翻看一下历届中青展的作品,那才叫做多元化,包容性最强.

* L6 d: b% a/ p* X很早就看过了，过去主张创新，只要有新意就能出名，
  ?! i4 d# H) @; n# w现在不一样，现在主张在传统上创新
现在写字的出名为什么难了，因为现在的书法发展了，要求严格了，曾兄以为何？em13

柳青凯

原帖由 曾如影 于 2007-10-9 20:15 发表

                               
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7 S, j# M6 n8 G1 J非也.如果你有兴趣的话,真实地翻看一下历届中青展的作品,那才叫做多元化,包容性最强.

太包容也是不行的，太包容就是不包容，容易走极端的
青凯关注的是整个书坛的发展而不是某个单项展览，
3 |: x1 m9 f7 L# g% n如果书法一直在发展，展览就一定也在改革
  K5 t' y- ^- J6 T1 m这是进化论的观点

王羲之书法

[whitepad]***700;400;700,400;;#f03;15; m37,140 l37,142,40,151,42,155,43,159,44,162,45,168,46,173,48,179,48,187,49,190,51,198,54,224,56,235,56,237,62,252,65,258,67,259,68,260,68,261,70,262 72,262,73,264,80,271,83,272,85,275,89,279,90,279,90,276 e|********* m84,190 l83,192,82,195,82,198,81,201,80,205,78,209,77,212,76,216,73,222,72,228,70,233,69,236,67,240,67,243,62,253,61,254,61,256,60,258,59,258,59,260 58,262,57,262,56,264,55,265,55,266,54,268,50,274,49,275,34,284,6,284,6,283,7,280 e|********* m10,229 l11,229,11,227,13,226,16,224,19,223,20,221,23,220,31,217,35,215,39,214,43,212,47,211,52,210,80,203,85,201,89,199,96,195,97,194,101,192,108,187 109,186,110,186,110,185 e|********* m97,158 l97,156,99,153,100,152,103,151,105,150,111,146,113,145,115,143,118,142,120,141,122,141,124,140,127,138,128,137,135,134,137,134,138,133,140,132,142,130,144,130 145,129,148,129,150,127,163,127,162,129,161,130,160,132,159,133,150,149,144,157,137,167,136,168,135,170,135,171,133,174,129,179,128,180,127,179,127,178 e|********* m119,149 l119,150,120,152,121,153,123,156,126,162,128,165,129,168,130,170,135,183,135,185,136,187,136,194,137,202,137,303,136,303,136,305,134,312,132,313,129,314,118,314 117,313,116,313,114,312,111,311,109,310,107,310,107,309,105,308,104,308,104,307,102,307,102,306,101,306,99,305,98,304,96,303,95,303,94,302,93,302,92,301 92,300,90,300,90,299,89,298,89,297,96,290,97,290 e|********* m90,239 l89,238,89,237,91,236,91,235,96,233,102,231,108,231,128,224,131,222,142,216,143,215,144,215,144,214,145,214,146,213,147,213,147,212,148,211,151,209,151,208 152,208,153,207,154,207,155,206,156,206,157,205,158,205,159,204,162,203,163,202,165,202,167,201,168,200,171,200,171,199,174,199,174,198,171,198,168,196 e|********* m263,144 l281,144,283,143,285,143,286,142,287,142,287,141,289,140,290,139,291,139,298,135,299,134,314,127,316,125,316,124,317,124,317,123,318,122,319,122,319,121,321,121 321,120,327,116,324,116 e|********* m302,81 l302,207,303,210,303,215,304,217,304,227,305,228,305,235,308,244,308,257,305,255,292,245,292,244,289,241,288,241,288,240,287,240,287,239,285,237,284,237,283,236 282,236,282,235,281,235,280,234,279,232,278,232,277,231,282,231 e|********* m271,232 l278,223,285,219,288,217,291,216,296,212,304,208,305,206,314,193,314,186,315,185,316,183,317,182,323,171,323,169,324,168,324,167,325,165,327,164,329,160,330,159 331,159,331,158,329,158,321,157 e|********* m348,86 l348,109,347,141,347,169,346,172,346,175,345,180,345,185,344,187,344,193,343,194,343,204,342,207,342,211,341,214,341,217,340,219,340,222,339,223,339,226,338,227 338,235,337,237,336,238,336,239,335,239,335,233 e|********* m317,201 l317,195,327,187,333,183,337,180,363,159,370,149,370,147,371,146,378,134,381,131,382,129,382,128,384,124,386,122,387,122,387,115,388,110,388,112,387,112,386,114 384,116,383,118,380,125,369,149,368,154,367,157,367,158,366,159,366,162,365,163,365,166,364,168,364,174,363,175,363,214,364,216,364,218,365,219,365,222,366,223 367,223,367,224,369,225,371,227,372,227,372,228,376,228,377,229,379,229,381,230,382,231,386,231,394,234,413,234,419,231,431,227,433,224,434,223,440,218,441,218 441,217,444,215,444,214,445,213,446,213,446,210,432,210 e|********* m334,199 l334,204,335,207,336,207,339,210,342,210,342,211,346,211,349,212,349,213,351,214,353,214,357,215,359,215,367,219,368,219,369,221,372,222,374,223,375,224,375,225 376,225,382,230,374,226 e|********* m302,247 l302,255,301,256,301,261,297,265,297,267,296,269,291,277,291,278,290,278,290,279,286,284 e|********* m286,283 l290,280 e|********* m322,258 l327,258,327,261,329,263,333,269,333,271,334,273,335,273,335,275,336,276,336,280,338,278,338,277 e|********* m369,251 l370,251,370,254,374,262,375,262,375,272 e|********* m420,246 l420,249,422,252,422,265,424,268,423,261 e|********* m520,81 l520,84,521,86,521,89,522,89,522,107 e|********* m513,140 l513,139,512,139,505,160,505,162,501,198,501,238,500,246,500,257 e|********* m521,159 l521,156,522,153,523,151,524,150,525,148,526,145,528,143,530,140,532,139,534,136,535,134,541,129,543,128,545,124,546,124,547,123,548,121,550,120,553,117,554,115 557,114,559,112,561,111,565,108,568,107,571,104,573,104,575,103,577,101,581,98,584,98,586,97,587,96,593,93,594,93,594,92,600,92,604,94,605,94,605,95 613,113,615,118,615,169,616,171,617,174,617,289,616,290,616,292,615,292,615,293,608,293,607,292,605,292,605,291,604,290,598,285,597,285,595,283,595,282,593,281 589,275,588,275,588,274,587,274,587,273,584,271,584,270,582,269,581,269,581,268,580,267,577,265,574,262,573,262,573,261,572,260,570,259,570,258,568,256,567,256 567,255,564,252,564,251,563,250,562,250,561,251 e|********* m547,138 l547,154 e|********* m501,185 l501,184,502,183,504,182,507,181,510,181,516,179,524,177,547,171,550,169,552,168,552,167,554,166,555,166,556,165,558,165,558,164,559,163,561,163,561,162,575,156 578,153,579,153,579,152,580,152,582,151,583,150,585,150,590,148,591,148,591,149,587,154 e|********* m532,169 l531,170,531,171,530,171,530,173,528,194,527,197,527,237,532,231,532,226,533,223,534,223,534,222,535,221,535,217,536,216,537,216,539,213,541,212,541,210,542,209 558,197,562,195,565,192,566,192,568,191,574,187,575,187,578,183,579,182,579,181,580,181,580,179,581,178,583,177,584,176,585,176,585,200,584,207,583,209,583,215 582,216,582,221,581,221,581,224,579,227,579,228,577,230,577,231,575,233,575,234,574,234,574,236,572,236,572,237,570,238,567,239,566,239,565,237,562,234,561,234 e|********* m557,173 l557,340,558,341,558,387,559,384 e[/whitepad]

王羲之书法

[whitepad]***700;400;700,400;;#0c3;15; m12,138 l33,138,33,137,34,137,37,135,39,132,40,132,40,131,41,131,43,129,49,125,50,124,47,124 e|********* m37,129 l37,144,38,145,38,155,39,157,39,228 e|********* m16,208 l16,206,17,205,19,204,20,203,22,202,25,202,27,201,28,201,36,196,38,194,40,193,42,193,43,192,47,190,50,189,61,185,63,184,64,183,65,183,65,182 66,182,65,184,63,186,55,200,50,206,47,212,46,213,41,220,40,220,40,222,37,225,37,226,33,231,32,231,30,234,29,234,21,243,18,246,15,251,14,251 14,252,13,253,12,253,12,254,11,254,11,253,12,253,14,251,18,249,20,247,21,247,23,246,25,244,33,240,34,240,35,239,36,239,37,238,38,238,38,237 39,236,40,236,40,235,42,234,43,234,44,232,46,230,47,230,49,228,50,228,51,227,52,227,52,225,53,225,53,224,54,223,55,223,56,221,58,220,60,218 68,213,69,213,69,209,70,209,70,207,69,207,69,208,66,208 e|********* m67,119 l65,119,65,120,64,120,64,121,63,122,63,146,64,147,65,149,66,150,66,152,69,155,69,156,71,158,71,167,72,168,72,171,74,172,75,174,76,180,76,181 78,181,78,177 e|********* m63,139 l63,135,65,133,71,130,74,129,76,128,77,127,81,125,84,125,84,124,93,121,94,121,95,120,96,120,97,119,98,119,99,118,101,118,102,117,103,117,103,116 105,116,107,114,108,114,109,113,112,112,120,107,121,106,123,105,124,104,132,104,132,130,131,131,131,136,130,137,130,140,129,142,129,143,128,143,128,144,127,144 127,145,126,146,123,152,123,154,122,154,122,156,121,156,121,157,120,157,117,161,117,162,116,162 e|********* m72,158 l72,157,73,157,74,156,79,155,83,155,92,154,93,154,94,153,101,153,104,152,105,152,109,151,110,151,112,148,113,148,113,147,115,147,115,148,104,157 e|********* m76,181 l76,183,96,183,96,181,97,180,97,177,98,176,99,176,99,175,100,175,101,172,102,171,102,169,103,169,104,168,105,168,106,167,107,167,107,166,108,166,110,164 116,164,115,163 e|********* m101,120 l101,233,95,229 e|********* m70,206 l71,205,76,205,79,204,89,203,91,202,105,200,107,199,108,199,113,198,116,198,127,196,132,196,134,195,139,195,139,198,138,198,137,199,137,200,134,203,133,203 123,208,122,209,120,209,119,210,116,210,115,211,113,211,111,213,106,215,93,222,91,222,89,224,87,225,86,226,85,226,78,229,77,229,76,231,73,231,72,232 71,232,69,234,67,234,67,235,66,235,65,236,63,239,63,241,82,241,91,240,91,239,93,239,102,237,103,237,108,236,112,236,115,235,122,235,124,234,129,232 130,232,132,231,134,229,136,229,137,228,141,228,143,227,152,227,153,226,155,226,155,225,153,224,152,224,149,223,146,221,146,220 e|********* m215,121 l215,193,216,205,217,207,217,229,214,222 e|********* m196,174 l196,198,195,202,194,203,194,204,192,205,192,207,191,207,191,206,192,203 e|********* m220,165 l224,165,225,166,228,166,242,171,241,171 e|********* m244,133 l244,139,243,140,243,141,242,142,242,144,241,144,241,146,240,148,239,149,239,151,238,151,238,153,235,158,235,162,234,165,234,166,242,166,246,165,260,163,262,161 268,157,269,157,269,156,271,155,271,154,272,153,273,153,277,149,279,146,279,145,290,137,292,136,293,135,294,132,294,125,293,125,290,127 e|********* m266,104 l266,210 e|********* m236,197 l242,197,245,196,252,196,254,195,258,195,259,194,261,191,262,191,263,190,263,189,264,189,272,186,276,185,283,183,286,183,286,189,285,189,284,190,284,191,282,192 281,193,276,196,276,197,274,197,274,198,273,199,251,199,249,201,248,201,247,202,244,202,242,204,241,204,241,205,238,205,238,206,237,206,237,207,236,207,235,208 235,209,234,209,234,211,233,211,233,225,247,225,249,224,251,224,252,223,254,222,255,221,257,220,258,220,259,219,261,218,262,217,266,217,267,216,277,216,277,215 285,215,286,214,289,214,289,213,293,213,294,212,296,212,298,210,299,210,300,209,301,209,301,208,302,208,303,207,307,207,307,206,313,206,313,205,310,204,306,203 301,200,297,198,294,198 e|********* m368,147 l371,147,371,146,373,146,373,145,374,145,382,139,384,137,385,137,386,136,388,136,388,135,389,134,390,134,391,133,392,133,394,131,396,131,397,130,399,129,401,127 401,120,400,120,398,121 e|********* m396,92 l396,195,397,197,397,229,396,229,396,232,395,232,395,234,394,234,394,236,392,238,392,239,389,241,387,243,386,243,386,241,383,237,383,232,382,229,382,224,381,224 381,222,380,222 e|********* m369,212 l370,212,374,210,375,209,379,207,381,205,383,204,386,203,387,201,388,200,393,192,393,184,396,181,396,178,397,178,397,171,399,168,406,161,407,161,409,159,411,158 411,148,412,146,413,146,413,144,414,144,414,145,411,148 e|********* m420,120 l420,155,421,157,421,163,422,156,423,155,423,154,424,153,424,150,427,147,428,143,430,142,431,140,432,139,432,137,434,135,434,134,438,127,439,127,439,125,440,124 442,123,443,123,446,120,457,113,459,112,460,112,480,105,481,104,487,104,487,103,489,103,489,113,487,115,487,116,483,123,481,127,477,130,477,131,474,134,474,135 472,136,472,137,468,141,468,142,466,145,465,147,463,148,461,150,461,149,460,148,460,147,459,146 e|********* m440,132 l440,148,439,150,439,151,441,150 e|********* m470,126 l470,150 e|********* m418,201 l418,204,429,204,433,203,440,200,440,199,441,198,442,198,442,197,443,196,444,196,445,195,445,194,446,194,446,193,447,192,448,192,451,189,453,189,455,187,471,178 477,176,477,175,481,173,490,167,495,164,496,164,497,163,498,163,498,162,499,162,499,160,500,159,497,159 e|********* m458,142 l458,245,453,245,453,244,450,241,448,240,448,239,445,238,444,236,443,236,441,235,440,234,439,234,437,232,437,231 e|********* m431,208 l432,206,432,225,433,221 e|********* m503,209 l491,209,491,211,490,211,489,214,489,218,512,218,512,215,511,215,511,214,510,214,508,213,507,212,504,211 e|********* m560,114 l560,113,562,113,562,115,563,117,564,118,564,120,565,121,565,127 e|********* m541,189 l541,187,546,183,546,182,547,182,549,181,549,180,550,180,551,178,552,178,554,177,554,176,556,174,557,174,558,171,559,171,560,170,560,168,561,168,562,167,563,164 564,163,564,161,565,160,565,158,564,171,564,214,566,213,568,210,569,210,571,207,572,207,575,201,576,201,576,198,579,189,580,187,581,187,581,184,582,184,582,183 583,181,584,181,584,179,585,179,586,178,586,177,588,175,589,175,589,174,590,174,590,173 e|********* m573,171 l573,170,575,170,594,162,597,161,600,158,601,158,607,152,608,152,608,151,610,149,611,149,611,148,613,146,614,146,614,145,615,144,616,144,616,143,617,142,618,142 618,141,622,139,623,138,624,138,625,137,629,135,630,134,632,134,635,132,637,132,639,131,642,130,646,128,647,128,647,127,648,127,648,126,649,123,649,122,650,122 651,121,653,120,653,121,650,121 e|********* m625,76 l625,90,626,92,626,95,627,97,627,121,628,123,628,126,630,139,630,229,629,229,628,231,627,231,627,232,607,232,607,231,606,231,605,230,604,230,604,229,603,229 599,227,598,226,598,225,597,225,597,222,596,222,596,221 e|********* m604,191 l604,190,621,190 e|********* m606,194 l603,194,603,195,607,195,608,193,608,192,612,192 e|********* m606,194 l608,194 e|********* m608,193 l610,191,614,191 e|********* m363,210 l364,210,365,209,365,208,366,208,366,207,368,204,369,204,371,202,372,202,372,201,373,201,377,198,379,197,383,192,384,192,384,189,385,189,385,187,388,184,390,183 390,182,391,182,391,174,392,174,394,172,397,172,397,171,398,171,399,170 e|********* m469,134 l468,134,468,136,475,139,481,139,481,147,474,147,474,146,473,146,473,145,471,145 e|********* m445,143 l444,143,444,144,443,146,442,149,441,150,441,151,439,152,443,152,443,149 e|********* m410,200 l422,200,422,199,425,199,426,198,436,198,440,197,443,195,444,195,445,194,451,191,452,191,452,190,453,190,455,189,455,188,457,185,458,184,459,184,459,183,460,182 461,182,461,181,463,181,463,180,465,180,466,179,467,179 e|********* m365,203 l358,203,358,204,357,205,357,213,374,213,374,212,376,212,376,211,378,210,378,208,380,207,380,203 e|********* m365,146 l367,146 e|********* m362,148 l374,148 e|********* m563,115 l561,115,561,122,567,122 e|********* m562,118 l562,122 e[/whitepad]

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在这物欲横溢的时代，书法最应远离既是它。em14 em14 em14