繁體字 发表于 2007-10-9 21:01

值得讨论。
我的观点倾向于作者。

王羲之书法 发表于 2007-10-9 21:07

山水居:
1959年,沈伊默倡议成立”上海中国书法篆刻研究会“,在陈毅同志和魏文伯同志的关心支持以及方行同志的具体指导下,1960年秋组建筹委会,1961年4月8日”上海中国书法篆刻研究会“正式宣告成立。沈尹默任主任委员,共有会员80余人。1981年改名为“中国书法家协会上海分会”,即今天的”上海市书法家协会“。
这比”陕西省书法研究室“至少早了12年吧?em4 em4 em4

黄记文 发表于 2007-10-9 21:43

确切地说应该称作:刘正成书法年代.
时代有政权更替含义.

王羲之书法 发表于 2007-10-9 22:00

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王羲之书法 发表于 2007-10-9 22:00

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国学馆 发表于 2007-10-9 22:39

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阿拉木 发表于 2007-10-9 22:44

原帖由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 19:16 发表 http://www.shufa.org/bbs/images/common/back.gif
看了这个帖子,正反两方面的观点都有,wgGoL
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青凯当是看刘派,意思是我是在看,在观察;Q#V a?(I?
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一个“做了许多工作”且“功不可没”的人,却一直得到自己应有的正确评价,再不允许人家自己出来说说,这是在有些苛刻了。
现在看看,这事其实搁谁谁也受不了。这里的王先生不是也在为那薛铸说吗?
什么“刘正成时代”,明明该是“薛铸时代”啊——成立中国书协那“报告”都是俺薛铸起草的,没俺薛铸你们现在入哪门子书协em4 em4 em4 em4 em4

其实,仔细想想,这几年除了这回这次公开的演讲之外,对于20几年来书法的事刘何时还说过呢?
在如我等百姓都可以上网说话的今天,比刘正成说的多的人那叫一个海了去了。

阿拉木 发表于 2007-10-9 23:05

原帖由 柳青凯 于 2007-10-9 20:23 发表 http://www.shufa.org/bbs/images/common/back.gif

很早就看过了,过去主张创新,只要有新意就能出名,
现在不一样,现在主张在传统上创新
现在写字的出名为什么难了,因为现在的书法发展了,要求严格了,曾兄以为何?em13




看来柳先生并没真的去看。
中青展主张的是植根传统,张扬个性,这与“在传统上创新”应该是一回事的。
现在写字为什么出名难?很简单,因为现在的书法环境变了,具体说,一是作为“出名”载体的书法展览现在太泛滥了。展览频繁泛滥,获奖人数也就跟着上涨。一年这么多的展览,这么多的人在获奖,大家记起这些人来自然就难了,大家记不住你,你还出什么名啊。以前二年才一中青展,四年论一国展,每次展览评10几个获奖的,谈展览时,想不提这10几个人都不行。被喜爱书法关心展览的人天天叨念着,他想不出名都难。
二是如今媒体太发达了。当年书法报纸刊物就那么几家,而且还不是周报就是双月刊。谁想站个版面宣传一下那得排队等着。现在呢,报刊多了,出版周期短了。不管谁,只要找人写个吹捧文章都可以找到发表的地方。实在不行,还可以自己换个马甲贴网上来。看着是大家都露了脸都有了名,但什么一多了也就没价值和影响了。

黔墨 发表于 2007-10-9 23:32

      
            王根权先生口口声声说“依据”一词,请问如下:

      一、“刘正成先生的依据是周明华先生的一句话。这句话可靠吗?不可靠。周明华先生说这话,是什么地方说的,什么场合说的,真正的意思是什么,都有待考证。在这个问题上他是局外人,他对历史事实不了解,情有可原。”一言中说周明华先生是“局外人”和“不了解”,请问你的“局外人”一说依据是什么?什么东东周明华先生“不了解”?是不是说周明华先生现在还未加入中国书协,所以不够资格?你也太轻率了吧。

      二、“谁是中国书坛真正的创坛者呢?薛铸先生关于中国书协的成立有一篇回忆文章,其中有关中国书协成立相关的人物和事件说的清清楚楚。这里我们将中国书协的起根发苗作以简述。”一篇回忆文章就断定“中国书坛真正的创坛者”是因“中国书协的起根发苗”。否!我只记得一句,创造历史的是人民群众,而不是某个人和单位。

      三、我赞同“刘正成时代”一说,其实也只是一个符号,记忆而已。你说的“以自己的名字命名这个书法时代严肃吗?”会让人联想政治运动,不好!自古就有宋四家、竹林七贤、书法二王、龙门十二品、书圣、诗仙等等,其实这些都是虚名,都是一个符号,记忆而已!它和人的津贴、级别、职称、劳模、冠军没有什何关系。你想记就记,不想记也没有人为难你。就我就号称:“老牌正宗水墨书评玩家”,也是一个记忆符号,你把它看低了就没什么,看高了,当成中国第一、世界第一的“老牌正宗水墨书评玩家黔墨”!内心肯定不平衡。

      四、你说“希望刘先生能冷静下来,不要将功利看得太重,以平常心待人,以平常心处事。这样以来,还是可以为中国的书法事业做些工作的”。刘正成先生的发言稿,其实也是“中国的书法事业做些(宣传和普及)工作的”,虽然带有个人特色,也还是很有人情味的,网上欢迎者盛。刘先生退下来以后,多年来一直是以“以平常心待人,以平常心处事”的,请你多看看他参与的活动和做的事就能说明。值书法网成立五周年,他受邀出来为书法爱好者免费做些回忆和书法的讲演,就是不冷静,就是将功利看得重了?王先生也未免牵强了些吧。难道说一个书法家成天呆在家里不说话,一年四季放不出一个屁来,才就是“能冷静下来,不将功利看得太重”的表现吗?什么叫做“为人民服务”?其实就是一个动词“为”字,要有“为”才有“为”。

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